Master Eleven
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 | | 04/03/2007 5:54 PM |
| Posted By dj_kaoh_the_producer on 04/01/2007 7:19 PM
i dont think scott storch is arrogant i mean. he might have said he was the best on the planet but really how many producer do u know who say that. i know alot maybe i know alot of arrogant people but i dont think he really thinks that he just sayin he thinks hes good. he may be sayin hes the best but hes not meaning it literally. its like sayin u like only 1 kind of coffee but ur not thinking about the other ones at all. then agin maybe im wong i think about ish 2 much. maybe he is arrogant lmao who gives a funk. im good i know i am i may not be the best but its better than being nothing.  and with each passing month my style improves and my ish gets better and producers needa stop being arrogant expessially unknown underground producers. we may all be small droplets but together we stir up a storm. and if we keep progressing a hurricane of new talent and swagger will be kicked into the main stream.
Agreed man.
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Preemium
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| | 04/05/2007 4:05 PM |
| Posted By dj_kaoh_the_producer on 03/24/2007 6:05 PM
he didnt revolutionize anything but a new way to convert gay ass boy bands to an urban persona look who he produces justin timberlake and nelly fertado how hip hop can they really be.
Dude, do you have any respect for legends in the producin' ish? You're acting like Timbaland always did ish for Justin Timberlake and Nelly Furtado, when in reality, he produced Ginuwine's first album, almost ALL of Aaliyah's ish, and a whole buncha Missy's ish. He took beat boxing in beats to another level, and pretty much with everything thats out there right now, he's always thinking of more and more ways to make it better. His mentality is just so creative and that's what you always have to respect.
On the other hand, Scott Storch, in my opinion, is a one-dimensional producer. He uses the pitch bend wheel and other different ways to make certain melodies sound ethnic, and all of a sudden people love him. That's soon gonna fade and it's gonna get played out. I'm already tired of Candy Shop, Just A Lil' Bit, Lean Back, almost all his ish. But with Timbo, I can go back and listen to Pony and never get tired of it. He made a funkin beat with his voice used as da melody. Scott Storch is a piano man, he does not know how to go outside of the box. Timbaland can't even find the box he started from cuz he's that far away from it.
Kanye West quote, "My opinion is that I like Timbaland. I think Timbaland might be the BEST producer of all time."
And yo don't hate on Timbaland for producin' for Nelly Furtado or Justin Timberlake, that shows his versatility. | |
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Preemium
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| | 04/05/2007 4:13 PM |
| Yo djeleven, "Give It To Me" was recorded WAY WAY WAY before the Make It Rain (Remix).
And like that otha dude said up there, you can't hate on Timbo for sampling, QUIT CALLIN' IT STEALING.
That's like sayin' Kanye West STOLE Luther Vandross' ish and made a beat with it, or Just Blaze STOLE Rick James' Superfreak. If it were that way, then I guess some of the best samplers in the world are officially THIEVES. | |
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FC1
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| | 04/05/2007 5:30 PM |
| Posted By preemiumx on 04/05/2007 4:13 PM
And like that otha dude said up there, you can't hate on Timbo for sampling, QUIT CALLIN' IT STEALING.
That's like sayin' Kanye West STOLE Luther Vandross' ish and made a beat with it, or Just Blaze STOLE Rick James' Superfreak. If it were that way, then I guess some of the best samplers in the world are officially THIEVES.
Maybe those guys had those samples cleared?
I appreciate what Timbaland's done for music in general...but hearing that radio interview where he's just laughing at the guy he ripped off...that's practically disrespecting all musicians.
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Master Eleven
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| | 04/05/2007 6:02 PM |
| Posted By preemiumx on 04/05/2007 4:13 PM
Yo djeleven, "Give It To Me" was recorded WAY WAY WAY before the Make It Rain (Remix).
And like that otha dude said up there, you can't hate on Timbo for sampling, QUIT CALLIN' IT STEALING.
That's like sayin' Kanye West STOLE Luther Vandross' ish and made a beat with it, or Just Blaze STOLE Rick James' Superfreak. If it were that way, then I guess some of the best samplers in the world are officially THIEVES.
NAHH man it was a later version of the remix
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Preemium
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| | 04/06/2007 3:35 PM |
| Also if you guys think that Timbaland sold out by producing for Nelly Furtado and Justin Timberlake, what about Scott Storch for Brooke Hogan, Christina Aguilera, and Paris Hilton? | |
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| | 04/06/2007 10:02 PM |
| | didnt storch make beats for kevid federline lmfao | | | |
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jan smith
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| | 04/07/2007 2:04 PM |
| Um, I think most of u are forgetting what they are...they make and SELL music...so if I come 2 them and have enough cash to buy some of their ready-made beats, I will get it...it dont matter if im white, black, gay or KFed...
And to be honest, I liked some of Hilonts songs from the production point of view (and the videos ass well:D)
Main point is, they are a business...like it or not, everything is bout money and theres loads of underground cats outhere/here:D hatin on people that made it, sayin theyre sellin out...ish ALL of you would produce for Hilton if u had the chance...Having seen her video, at this point, id give her a track for a bit of sexy time:)
Bottom line is: they are good producers, they are wanted, they make quality tracks and they set a price for them...if u can afford them, u can get them...simple as that...so rather than selling out, they are selling... | | | |
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| | 04/07/2007 2:14 PM |
| | if Kfed bought beats from storch that dude a dumb ass expessially when he trying be a hip hop producer. and i never said timbo wasnt a good hip hop influence. i wasnt talking about what hes done im talking about what hes doing now. i love his beats but technically he did steal a melody from that ringtone composer go look around NFX posted a video on it. he never even gave her credit for it. he made a buncha money off it . i wouldnt be making a deal out of it if he woulda just said she made it and he sampled it. but he didnt he acted like it was his. | |
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| | 04/11/2007 6:12 PM |
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NFX
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| | 04/12/2007 9:27 AM |
| What I respect most about Timbo is that his beats are raw and well produced and clean. It's a hard combination.
What I don't like so much is that he did not clear (or even credit) that Do It sample. Really it was a rip because he didn't chop it up, he straight bit it.
I know he samples/borrows he also got burned on the Truth hurts track "Addicted" he did a few years back.
I primarily compose my tracks I would hate for someone to rip my stuff and take credit. I know preemium feels the same 
On the positive side, that finnish guy has a definite case and should make some dollars from it. Timbo will probably settle and everyone will be happy. | |
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jan smith
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| | 04/14/2007 12:51 PM |
| Damn...thanks for the Vid, never new that he was that ish at stealing stuff...at least change it a bit or pay for it, i mean hes got the dough...this really puts Timbo way down in my books, cuz now ull never know if he stole something else...
On another note tho, I find that I cant help but get "inspired" sometimes...theres only so many main beat variations you can do...but this is way off the scale of gettin inspired...poor guy... | | | |
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G'd Up production$
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| | 11/10/2008 7:54 PM |
| Wow hahahha well lemme Tell dis
Most Producers Are known by a specific sound or style they made
Timbaland is well known by He,s Drums Arpegiators and vocals
Scott storch is known By He,s Drums 2 and Ethnic/orientall sounds
so it realy Depends what people like to hear and those Ethnic/orientall beats doesent get bored real fast
just the drums are catchy due the hard kicks and snares percs etc and then the flutes and stringz wid da bends init makes the track look intresting feel me ??? Like lil jon he uses da same old ish like always Flute and Synth But still it keeps intresting Why ??? Because he uses em good or mixing ?? ionno
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Maestro
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| | 11/10/2008 10:27 PM |
| Tim all the funkin' way, producing wise anyways.
Scott Storch is a good MUSICIAN, as a one man band type producer, he's never entirely impressed me. As for Tim, sampling is hip hop, but he also makes his own ish, so he kinda has the best of both worlds. | | | |
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Sabotage
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| | 11/11/2008 3:08 AM |
| I'm not bothered to get into the discussion about who is the man. However I do need to set one thing straight, cause this is how beef and missunderstandings happen in the first place.
Timbo didn't steal from no ringtone composer, here is how it went.
This finnish guy, way back when. Did a chip tune (google chip tune) for a demo. A norweigian chiptune musician then asked him for permission to convert the song to another chip which he got. After that Timbo got his hands on it, and years before he made the Furtado joint he was already selling it as a ringtone. So timbo didn't steal no ringtone, cause he made the ringtone. He did however steal a original composition from that finnish guy. The silly part was that even after he was taken to court, he was laughing about it. Saying he had no way of knowing where it came from and thus couldn't clear it. Now that's all bs. A) those chip tunes come with built in info much like mp3 files. B) if you sample someone you betta know who it is, and surely Timbo by now knows about the sample clearence process. He just thought he would steal from some random nerd and nobody would the wiser.
The problem was that this one song was actually well known and where Timbo played the ignorance card on the listeners he got caught on it instead.
sampling is one thing, but basicly taking the whole song and calling it yours is another.
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| | 11/11/2008 8:34 AM |
| I think you can't compare them to each other. Both are great producers but it depends on which style you prefer. I like the drums of timbaland and the vocals in his tracks. But Storch makes good songs either. So it's just a question of flavour. Personally I like Timbo's style more. Timbo is one of the bests when you got to sample and if he makes songs out of ringtones it shows how great he is. | |
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| | 11/11/2008 10:20 AM |
| Storch = Seasho > Timbo
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| | 11/11/2008 5:01 PM |
| peep game - scott storch is ORIGINAL roots hip hop.
timbo is soul-less club beats.
there is no contest here, storch wins. | | | |
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Hatari Beatz
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| | 11/11/2008 6:05 PM |
| They are two different producers and too compare them is like apples and oranges. They both have unique styles and have done alot for the music game, but i wouldn't choose between the two because they bring a different element to the music game. I lke em both!!!! To understand producers, you would have to know a little something about music and why each one of us choose the types of sounds, progressions, chords and melodies that we use. In music, there is no best, because it's what we hear and do that makes us unique as far as our approach is concerned!!!! I like all types of music as long as i can hear and see the direction that the producer or musicians are going. It doesn't matter how many radio hits a producer has, it's what he or she does with the music . PEACE! | |
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| | 11/12/2008 4:05 AM |
| Right said-there is no best!
I don't like any of them. | |
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