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slliks67 (slliks867) Registered Users Posts:111

 | | 11/18/2008 3:31 PM |
| yup F1 YA it is like a test and the teacher is not grading the paper instead you have students grading students i got a few of those bull type comments on my beat and it was a blend type check it out in the feed back slliks67 (I can dream cant I) let me know what you think here or there I left very constructive criticism and mugs just straight dissed me no cool where is your beat so i can check it out also i would rather have creative feedback instead of wtf? and such give a cat motivation | | | |
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Posts:51

 | | 11/18/2008 3:31 PM |
| Everyone has an opinion. Hopefully they tell the truth in what they think. You should be able to take the good and the bad. Personally, I appreciate honest negative feedback more than praise because it helps me get better.
If you like your hats the way they are, then keep em. The feedback system is not perfect (never will be as long as it' is open to everyone) so learn how to pick and choose what you think you need from the ratings - let the rest go. Don't go looking for other peoples tracks to retaliate please.
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| slliks67 (slliks867) Registered Users Posts:111

 | | 11/18/2008 3:39 PM |
| | you can say don't go looking for other peoples tracks but if you not getting constructive crit from some idiot then your looking to see what they see and what they made that is so much better it's call competitiveness and i am that. that is y i started doing this | | | |
| slliks67 (slliks867) Registered Users Posts:111

 | | 11/18/2008 8:42 PM |
| what up here is a suggestion i feel as though your system needs to only go to a rating of below average because the others are not really called for and 1 can take it personally I would think with all your experience this would have been in your thought process REMEMBER BEGINNERS i say this because i was a victim of a trash rating on a Martin Luther King blend with a beat I made and I feel it is far from trash or weak i would like for you to check it out and let me know one cat even said the time stretchin was horrible and I did'nt even use time stretching so let me know slliks67 (i can dream cant i) name of song I would appreciate it thanks | | | |
| Sabotage (Sabotage) Moderators Posts:533


 | | 11/19/2008 2:56 AM |
| I would like to instead extend out that "remember the beginners" to the community instead. After all this is a place for learning and most people in here are still doing just that, learning.
I do not think that someone that himself has not yet mastered the game will be judging harsly (or atleast should not be, people tend to judge based on their own level of experience) . Also the more seasoned people in here will take that in to account, so don't worry about it.
That said , I would call out someone like NFX on a horrible mistake. | | | |
| BeatF1Ya (ma7ze) Registered Users Posts:69


 | | 11/19/2008 3:34 AM |
| This is not the point....i know, what kind of peolple are rating here...most of them hast not much more experience than oneself...but the thing in my opinion is that the people shoudl not rate if they only say "man thats ish".... My thounght was about GIVING INTENTIONS! I don't expect to get feed only by some pros here...but when u say it's trash...say what u would change to make it sound better...whether u have some idea of what u talking or not...is not important...cause u try the suggestions anyway...and often U get som kick out of som small notions...like drop this note oder put in here som strings or som like that...For such a suggestion u don't have to be a pro...it's all about creativity and ideas...and it's regartdless whether they are from a pro here or a noob...and in the end it'S up tu U what u make out of this ideas... This is not a complain about negativ crit...cause only with negative crit u get better...but the crit should mention what is so weak about ur production in theire opinion... I think this is what a feedback is about...and not "hm"..."trash"...."stop doin music"... When 99% of the comments sounds like this...which good crit, regardless whether its negative oder positiv, du u want to extract out ouf this....THIS IS MY COMPLAIN here.... | | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.myspace.com/beatf1ya">www.myspace.com/beatf1ya</a> --> ADD | |
| GP Studio (brolance) Moderators Posts:1535


 | | 11/19/2008 4:21 AM |
| | You guys should remember that the Beat Show forum is still open for business and if you need more detailed feedback or would like to discuss the whys and hows etc, you should post your beat in the Beat Show forum using the code for the mp3 player that you were given after uploading your beat. The Beat Show forum allows you to get more detailed and discuss things openly. | | GPSTudio | http://gpstudio.us | FlStudio 8, Cubase Studio 4.5, Fostex Pm4, Rokit Krk5's, Rokit Krk10 sub, Axiom 49, Keystation 49, Tascam US 122l, Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.86ghz 1gig ram 100gig hd, 300gig ext hd, 500gig ext hd, Amd 8450 triple core, Vista 64 w/ 4gig ram, 640 gig hd, 22" monitor. | |
| GP Studio (brolance) Moderators Posts:1535


 | | 11/19/2008 6:03 AM |
| Bugs! -- I had rated 10 beats as of today and uploaded 2 beats. The last beat i uploaded was last week, so i thought i had upload credits :D I planned to upload my new beat, then go and feed the others, yes i know that's backwards but again i thought i had credit. I uploaded my new beat and it showed i now had 3 uploads, but my beat didn't show in the feedback system block and i got a message on the upload page that said "I can only upload 1 beat per day Why not give feedback?" so i decided then i should delete my beat as it wasn't showing up for feedback anyway. So i deleted my beat then went and gave some feedback. So now I have rated 13 tracks and the upload status still shows i have 3 beats uploaded, even though i deleted my last beat. Now im unable to upload a beat today, which is ok, but still the count is wrong and something went wrong for my beat not to show up in the feedback block after i had uploaded it.
I hope i explained well enough, any questions just ask :) | | GPSTudio | http://gpstudio.us | FlStudio 8, Cubase Studio 4.5, Fostex Pm4, Rokit Krk5's, Rokit Krk10 sub, Axiom 49, Keystation 49, Tascam US 122l, Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.86ghz 1gig ram 100gig hd, 300gig ext hd, 500gig ext hd, Amd 8450 triple core, Vista 64 w/ 4gig ram, 640 gig hd, 22" monitor. | |
| 2nd Man (bs2790) Moderators Posts:1307


 | | 11/19/2008 10:40 AM |
| wow, you need to learn how to take criticism. if im playing my track for just blaze, and i got the beat perfect how i want it in my head, and he says change that hi-hat i dont like it, ima take his advice and try it, if i dont like im not gonna keep it if some guy whos been making beats for 2weeks says i dont like the hihat, ima change it and see what its like
and for more detailed feedback, as GP says, theres the Beat Show section. what your describing about getting full feedback and it being returned well is exactly what goes on there. you feed, drop a link, and the person returns the feed. you generally find that if u feed a page about some1s beat, theyll try and do the same back, if you feed "thats hot" theyll do the same back. and again, if you want feed from some1 u think is more experienced and knowledge, hit up some feed on people in beat show and ask for return feed
(but some great new additions to the chart page nfx, the system is progressin well)
| | http://www.soundclick.com/2ndman
AIM - The2ndMan2
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| GP Studio (brolance) Moderators Posts:1535


 | | 11/20/2008 6:37 AM |
| | I reuploaded my track this morning, but its still not showing up in the sidebar and my count is still off. The track shows up in the latest uploads block on the charts page though. My count says i have 4 beats but i only have 3. | | GPSTudio | http://gpstudio.us | FlStudio 8, Cubase Studio 4.5, Fostex Pm4, Rokit Krk5's, Rokit Krk10 sub, Axiom 49, Keystation 49, Tascam US 122l, Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.86ghz 1gig ram 100gig hd, 300gig ext hd, 500gig ext hd, Amd 8450 triple core, Vista 64 w/ 4gig ram, 640 gig hd, 22" monitor. | |
| NFX (nfx) Warbeats Admin Posts:2556


 | | 11/20/2008 9:30 AM |
| Fieedback will almost always have a negative comment here and there. JZM for exampe upload a great track IMO and someone responded "I just don't get it" and probably rated everything low. I'm sure JZM isn't sweating it. If it happens to me I realize not everyone is the same so I can pick and choose who I give my attention.
The hater out there is not common, unless you have a lot of enemies. So look at the overall picture. If 90% of the feedback is negative, you might just have a trash song.
If you waste all your time worrying about the occassional hater, then your not mentally prepared to take honest criticism either.
One of the things I learned early on in my beatmaking, from getting into beat battles was that sometimes my sh!t does indeed stink. Once you can admit that, you can get better.
I think it's overreacting by some people. It's not like the haters are going all against you. ITS BEAT FEEDBACK BASED ON OPINIONS.
I can do some thing to help the situation like throw out the top and bottom ratings which will give a more accurate over all score.
The key is, over time we'll learn who has opinions that are well thought out and useful and those that don't and we'll figure out how to deal with it.
The more the system gets used and people five feedback on the system, the better it can become over time. | | If you find this site useful, please consider making a donation. | |
| GP Studio (brolance) Moderators Posts:1535


 | | 11/21/2008 4:40 AM |
| Im sure your still working on this, but my beat count is still off, it shows i have 4 beats and i only have 3, i deleted a beat, and the count didnt change. Also the Volume parameter is still off on the mp3 player on the voting page. It shows that you can turn up the volume, but in actuallity its at max to start and anything past that is over 100% volume and the track distorts. EDIT: Volume Parameter is ok now with the new player! Thanks!
I also think the Anonymous feedback should be unchecked by default. I'm not afraid to let peeps know who i am when commenting and in most cases others should be willing to put their name out too, unless they are not confident in their own abilities to judge. I personally will probably just ignore all feedback posted as anonymous because if i don't know who you are then who are you to say how may beat sounds, there are a lot of newbies on this site and people posting feed just so they can post a beat.
If you've been making beats for sometime, and you are confident in yourself and your abilities, then why would you be afraid to post your name with the feedback? *this is for all you old timers that are choosing to post anonymous, don't be scared to put your name out there, it gives a lot more credibility to the feed. I mention this because on my last beat i got 4 votes with feedback 2 were good and 2 were bad, all 4 were posted anonymous, so basically i got no feed because i dont know who is who and who is more likely to know what they are talking about :( | | GPSTudio | http://gpstudio.us | FlStudio 8, Cubase Studio 4.5, Fostex Pm4, Rokit Krk5's, Rokit Krk10 sub, Axiom 49, Keystation 49, Tascam US 122l, Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.86ghz 1gig ram 100gig hd, 300gig ext hd, 500gig ext hd, Amd 8450 triple core, Vista 64 w/ 4gig ram, 640 gig hd, 22" monitor. | |
| GP Studio (brolance) Moderators Posts:1535


 | | 11/21/2008 7:58 AM |
| | Just wanted to note also that Lazzzy's beat "The F Word" has never played for me, and hence its probably not playing for others and wont get any votes therefore it will always remain on the feedback system block. | | GPSTudio | http://gpstudio.us | FlStudio 8, Cubase Studio 4.5, Fostex Pm4, Rokit Krk5's, Rokit Krk10 sub, Axiom 49, Keystation 49, Tascam US 122l, Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.86ghz 1gig ram 100gig hd, 300gig ext hd, 500gig ext hd, Amd 8450 triple core, Vista 64 w/ 4gig ram, 640 gig hd, 22" monitor. | |
| Dmarc Beats™ (dmarcusmilez) Contributors Posts:2264


 | | 11/21/2008 8:05 AM |
| yea its like some people dont have good headphones and the mix sound messed up some dont like yo style of beats and leave neg comments if i dont like the beat i dont comment on it if its a beat that got potential i leave feed on how to make it better if its a good id say everything 100 comments like " i dont like it " or "it could be betterl" not really feedback | | soundclick.com/djmackman The sentence "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" uses every Letter in the English language.
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| Administrator Account (admin) Registered Users Posts:262

 | | 11/21/2008 8:55 AM |
| Regarding anonymous comments. On one hand, I think it promotes more honesty. You might hear a beat by someone you know and respect and will feel like you have to hold back some harsh criticism (even if it's just a lil bit). or you might know someone that doesn't like you will take your hoest feed the wrong way and probably retaliate.
It does open the door for people to make stupid and useless comments to game the system, but I still know who everyone is and when I implement the next phase of the plan (rating the raters) we'll see a trend of people who provide good criticism and those who give garbage. What better way to weed out the bad, than to allow them to expose themselves?
I can ban people from using the system when I see a definite pattern of abuse.
I will set it up so that you can set the your own default value for comments, but the default will remain anonymous. | | | |
| Administrator Account (admin) Registered Users Posts:262

 | | 11/21/2008 8:58 AM |
| Oh yeah I forgot to mention when you upload a beat it goes against your count even if you delete it. So if you uploaded 3 beats and then deleted one, you still need to have 8 feedbacks to upload the next beat.
Which brings up the question of whether the beat should be "undeleteable" or not... | | | |
| Emplex (Emplex) Registered Users Posts:123


 | | 11/21/2008 10:49 AM |
| The feedback system is great, but i do see what F1 Ya is talkin about, ppl sometimes say ur style is cool, or recently i got was "wasn't feeling the compo but i like ur instruments"...which ain't bad i mean i can get a general idea of what i might be able to change....like it was said above, gotta learn to take criticism even if some1 is rating u harshly... But all said an done, I have recently seen websites where I applied for jobs and when you write in your duties for it it'd say "MUST WRITE 50 WORDS MINIMUM"...was wondering if thats possible or something along those lines to increase feedback. | | | |
| stefan dozier (stefandozier) Registered Users Posts:92


 | | 11/21/2008 12:40 PM |
| The new feedback system is awesome NFX, nice job! | | down for some collabs
http://www.myspace.com/stefandoziermusic
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| Teazy (Teazy) Registered Users Posts:20

 | | 11/21/2008 2:33 PM |
| I agree. The rating system is sweet and I trust this community's opinions! | | | |
| hguard (hguard) Registered Users Posts:177

 | | 11/21/2008 4:48 PM |
| I would like to express my veiwpoint:
People, constructive criticism, whether it's "good" or "bad", doesn't have to be taken personally, if you remain detached from your feelings and what you do.
When a person is giving you feedback, they're giving you knowledge based on what they know or what they've been taught to like. It has NOTHING to do with you! Only when you learn how to detach yourself, you'll stop taking things personally on everything. Heck, you won't even notice the criticism or insults if you do detach yourself. It won't really phase you.
People need to realize that it's not the negative criticsim that helps you get better, its the information part of it that does. Contrary to what you all may believe, not all negative feedback is beneficial, period. Some people just hate a song for what ever reason, and they'll try to complain to you, making you feel bad, so they'll like it. Even if they do give you negative feedback, you don't have to view it that way. A viewpoint is just being expressed. Nothing & no one can really make you feel bad, unless you choose to. It's your choice on how you respond, ALWAYS!
It's important that you keep an open mind! See if their criticism truly has value to you. Look for information. If it doesn't have value, then you can forget it and move on. If it does, then take in the information and use it to improve your tracks, but you don't have to beat yourself up. Even if 90% of the feedback says your song is trash, that doesn't mean its the end of your beat career. If you want to thrive in making music, you have to accept the fact that not everyone is going to like your beats. You can't please everyone, and thats OK!
Overall, I think the feedback system is a great addition to Warbeats. I think it gives people's beats more exposure. Thank you NFX!
H. Ejam
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